[外電]超級英雄電影浮濫 何時現疲態?

看板SuperHeroes (美國漫畫/超級英雄)作者 (山普森 呂)時間17年前 (2008/08/10 00:03), 編輯推噓22(22014)
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※ [本文轉錄自 Theater 看板] 作者: sampsonlu919 (山普森 呂) 看板: Theater 標題: [外電]超級英雄電影浮濫 何時現疲態? 時間: Sun Aug 10 00:03:29 2008 http://city.udn.com/50132/2971929?tpno=0&cate_no=0 How Many Superheroes Does It Take to Tire a Genre? 超級英雄電影浮濫 何時現疲態? By A. O. Scott “Batman has no limits,” says Bruce Wayne to his manservant, Alfred, early in “The Dark Knight,” and the accountants at Warner Brothers, which released the movie, are likely to agree. I’m not so sure. 「蝙蝠俠沒有極限,」布魯斯韋恩在「黑暗騎士」前段告訴男僕阿福,負責發行的 華納公司會計人員可能有同感。我可沒這麼有把握。 “The Dark Knight,” praised by critics for its somber themes and grand ambitions, has proven to be a mighty box office force in a summer already dominated by superheroes of various kinds. 「黑暗騎士」陰鬱的主題和宏偉的企圖普獲影評讚賞,並在各式各樣超級英雄精銳 盡出的暑假成為票房強檔。 But any comic book fan knows that a hero at the height of his powers is a few panels removed from mortal danger, and that hubris has a way of summoning new enemies out of the shadows. Are the Caped Crusader and his colleagues basking in an endless summer of triumph, or are they already on their way out? 但任何漫畫迷都知道,英雄能力極盛時距致命危險只有幾格之遙,狂妄自大將從 幽暗處召來新的敵人。蝙蝠俠和其他超級英雄是沉浸在接連不斷的夏季大捷中志得 意滿,還是正走上敗亡之途? The season began with “Iron Man” back in May, which anticipated “The Dark Knight” in striking many reviewers as a pleasant surprise. The first weekend in July belonged to “Hancock,” which played with the superhero archetype by making him a grouchy, slovenly drunk rather than a brilliant scientist, a dashing billionaire or some combination of the two. In that case, the reviews were mixed, but the money flowed in anyway. Even the lackluster “Incredible Hulk,” back in June, managed a reasonably robust opening, as did “Hellboy II,” a somewhat more esoteric comic-book movie. 暑假檔由「鋼鐵人」在五月揭開序幕,搶在「黑暗騎士」前,讓許多影評人感到驚喜。 七月第一個周末是「全民超人」的天下,修飾超級英雄的原型,將其變成一個愛抱怨、 不修邊幅的醉漢,而非聰明的科學家,瀟灑的億萬富翁,或兩者的綜合體。 「全民超人」雖然影評褒貶不一,但反正財源滾滾。甚至乏味的「無敵浩克」 也在六月交出算得上強勁的首演票房,有點難懂的漫畫電影「地獄怪客II: 金甲軍團」亦然。 The commercial strength of the superhero genre is hardly news, of course. Ever since the success of “Spider-Man” back in 2002, this decade has been something of a golden age for large-scale action movies featuring guys in high-tech bodysuits battling garishly costumed, ruthless criminal masterminds. Some of them – the “Fantastic Four” pictures, most notably – are content to be entertaining pop-culture throwaways. But most aspire to be something more, to be taken as seriously as their heroes and villains take themselves. 當然,超級英雄類型的商業片賣座已經不算是新聞。從「蜘蛛人」早在2002年奏捷, 這十年是大排場動作片的黃金年代,穿高科技緊身衣的男人對抗穿著花稍俗麗,冷酷 無情的犯罪首腦。某些這類型影片,尤其是「驚奇四超人」系列,自甘為看過即忘的 娛樂流行文化商品。但絕大多數企圖不僅於此,它們渴望被認真看待,如同電影裡的 英雄與惡棍那樣正視自己。 There have been disappointments – Ang Lee’s 2003 “Hulk”; Bryan Singer’s “Superman Returns”; the third installment of the “X-Men” series, directed by Brett Ratner – but these have hardly dented the power of the genre. 令人失望的作品一直都有,像李安2003年的「綠巨人浩克」,布萊恩辛格的「超人再起」 ,及布萊特雷特納執導的「X戰警」系列第三集,但都難以削弱這類影片的威力。 Still, I have a hunch, and perhaps a hope, that “Iron Man,” “Hancock” and “Dark Knight” together represent a peak, by which I mean not only a previously unattained level of quality and interest, but also the beginning of a decline. In their very different ways, these films discover the limits built into the superhero genre as it currently exists. 儘管如此,我有個預感,或許是希望,「鋼鐵人」、「全民超人」和「黑暗騎士」 共創一個顛峰,我的意思不只是品質和趣味達到前所未有的水準,也是衰退的開始。 這些影片各自以迥然不同的方式,找到現有超級英雄片類型的內在極限。 I’m willing to grant that “The Dark Knight” is as good as a movie of its kind can be. There is no doubt that Batman provided Christopher Nolan with a platform for his artistic ambitions. You can’t set out to make a psychological thriller and expect to command anything like the $185 million budget Mr. Nolan had at his disposal in “The Dark Knight.” And that money allowed Mr. Nolan and his team to create a seamless and evocative visual atmosphere. 我樂於承認,「黑暗騎士」是同類型影片中的佼佼者。蝙蝠俠無疑提供克里斯多夫‧ 諾蘭一個發揮藝術企圖心的舞台。你拍一部心理驚悚片,無法期望能像諾蘭執導 「黑暗騎士」那樣編列1.85億美元預算。這筆錢讓諾蘭和他的團隊營造出天衣無縫, 勾引興趣的視覺藝術氛圍。 But to paraphrase something the Joker says to Batman, “The Dark Knight” has rules, and they are the conventions that no movie of this kind can escape. The climax must be a fight with the villain, during which the symbiosis of good guy and bad guy, implicit throughout, must be articulated. The end must point forward to a sequel, and an aura of moral consequence must be sustained even as the killings, explosions and chases multiply. 但詮釋小丑對蝙蝠俠說的話,「黑暗騎士」有其規則,而且這類型電影無一能夠免俗。 電影高潮必然善惡大戰,一直只用暗示來呈現的好人與壞人共生關係,在此決戰中 必須清楚表達。結局必然指出另有續集,殺戮、爆破、追逐場面加倍,但善有善報、 惡有惡報的道德原則必須確立。 Every movie genre is governed by conventions, and every decent genre movie explores the zones of freedom within those parameters. Thus “Iron Man” loosens the reins to give Robert Downey Jr. room to explore the kinks and idiosyncrasies of Tony Stark, the playboy billionaire engineering genius who grows up and builds himself a metal suit. And “Hancock” takes the conceit of a dissipated, semi-competent hero and turns it into the occasion for some sharp satire on race, celebrity and the supposedly universal likability of its star, Will Smith. 所有電影類型都受限於成規,每一部好的類型電影都在界限內探索自由的範圍。 所以「鋼鐵人」給小勞勃道尼空間,探索東尼‧史塔克的奇想與怪癖,這位放蕩 不羈的億萬富翁和工程天才成長,給自己打造了一件金屬衣。「全民超人」則是 將耽溺於飲酒作樂、半吊子英雄的自負,轉換成對種族、名流、主角威爾史密斯 萬人迷氣質的尖銳諷刺。 But in both cases, as soon as the main character is ready to do battle, the originality drains out of the picture, and the commercial imperatives – the big fight, the overscaled action extravaganza – take over. 但是在這兩個例子裡,主角一準備戰鬥,創意立刻枯竭,商業規律:大戰、超大 規模的動作展示開始主導。 The disappointment comes from the way the picture spells out lofty, serious themes and then ... spells them out again. What kind of hero do we need? Where is the line between justice and vengeance? 片子闡析崇高嚴肅的主題,然後呢,換個講法又說一遍,令人失望。我們需要 哪種英雄?正義和復仇的界線何在? And yet stating such themes is as far as the current wave of superhero movies seems able or willing to go. 但陳述這樣的主題似乎已是現在這波超級英雄電影所能或所願去做的極限。 The masked and caped poor crusaders must turn big profits on a global scale and satisfy an audience hungry for the thrill of novelty and the comforts of the familiar. 戴面具、披斗篷的正義使者必須在全球締造巨大利益,滿足觀眾對新奇興奮的渴望 和熟悉事物的舒適感。 Is it just me, or is the strain starting to show? 這只是作者自己的問題嗎,還是要滿足期待的壓力開始顯現? ============================================================================== 關鍵字句 “All the children say/We don't need another hero”蒂娜透納主唱電影 「衝鋒飛車隊第二集」主題曲We Don't Need Another Hero。人們或許不需要 英雄,但暑假強檔均以超級英雄(superhero)為主角,而且是有瑕疵、半吊子 (semi-competent)的超級英雄。 超級英雄的問題不是超能力不夠,而是自大妄為(hubris)。文學中有此傾向的 主角通常都以毀滅收場,商場也不例外:He has watched dozens of his competitors' businesses killed by hubris born of success rather than by unsound business decisions or adverse market conditions. 原文參照: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/movies/24supe.html http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/24/arts/24supe.php 2008-08-05/聯合報/G9版/UNITED DAILY NEWS 張佑生 原文請見8月5日紐時周報十一版上 -- LA NY B  D   NY SD S  α StL Λ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙   郭泓志 郭維拉 郭岡島 郭馬雅 郭格納 郭夫曼 郭JJ 郭莫茲 郭四零 郭-Rod 郭德華 郭寶貝 郭德瓊斯 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.217.196.20 -- LA NY B  D   NY SD S  α StL Λ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙ ˙˙   郭泓志 郭維拉 郭岡島 郭馬雅 郭格納 郭夫曼 郭JJ 郭莫茲 郭四零 郭-Rod 郭德華 郭寶貝 郭德瓊斯 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.217.196.20

08/10 00:56, , 1F
我覺得超人再起不錯啊...
08/10 00:56, 1F

08/10 01:21, , 2F
推樓上 超人再起我也覺得不錯。
08/10 01:21, 2F

08/10 01:22, , 3F
李安的浩克很有內涵啊~
08/10 01:22, 3F

08/10 01:34, , 4F
文章作者有點自視甚高的語氣... ~_~
08/10 01:34, 4F

08/10 01:37, , 5F
這傢伙擔心啥XD要是這樣就膩了 漫畫也不會一直推陳出新
08/10 01:37, 5F

08/10 01:37, , 6F
他實在想太多了 拍到爛了過幾年重拍就是一條活龍^^
08/10 01:37, 6F

08/10 01:38, , 7F
超人 杯麵不都這樣XD
08/10 01:38, 7F

08/10 02:11, , 8F
拍爛的也是有阿 elecktra就滿爛的
08/10 02:11, 8F

08/10 02:36, , 9F
淚推樓上...elektra我看得好難過 我明明很愛這角色的說orz
08/10 02:36, 9F

08/10 04:58, , 10F
不知道作者看了年底的PUNISHER會作何想像呢~XD~
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08/10 04:58, , 11F
一個沒有帶面具的英雄...不對! 他根本就不是英雄吧~XD
08/10 04:58, 11F

08/10 08:20, , 12F
為甚麼電影一定要肩負起文以載道的重責大任?
08/10 08:20, 12F

08/10 08:21, , 13F
難道娛樂流行文化就那麼罪大惡極嗎?
08/10 08:21, 13F

08/10 08:22, , 14F
花錢進電影院會想要看一堆刺激爆破還是三小時內心戲?
08/10 08:22, 14F

08/10 09:26, , 15F
問題是..此作者到底是誰?
08/10 09:26, 15F

08/10 10:11, , 16F
原作者是紐約時報的A.O. Scott,好像還算個大咖影評,但從文
08/10 10:11, 16F

08/10 10:11, , 17F
章語氣可以感受到,他應該本來就不喜歡超英雄電影或漫畫改編
08/10 10:11, 17F

08/10 10:12, , 18F
電影吧,唱衰的立場也頗怪,要說這類型的電影前景有疑慮,也
08/10 10:12, 18F

08/10 10:13, , 19F
該是在"已經顯出疲態時"才這麼說,哪有在超英雄電影達到頂峰
08/10 10:13, 19F

08/10 10:14, , 20F
之際,就斷言已無進步可能,除非他能通靈,能預知未來......
08/10 10:14, 20F

08/10 11:18, , 21F
照他的說法 早在幾十年前電影就差不多了 現在的電影
08/10 11:18, 21F

08/10 11:19, , 22F
哪一部不是老主題新詮釋?
08/10 11:19, 22F

08/10 11:50, , 23F
我很喜歡超人再起...可是我還蠻認同他的說法...~"~
08/10 11:50, 23F

08/10 12:39, , 24F
超人再起有夠難看...
08/10 12:39, 24F

08/10 13:20, , 25F
同上...
08/10 13:20, 25F

08/10 13:20, , 26F
超人再起明明就很棒 重點在情感跟浪漫
08/10 13:20, 26F

08/10 13:44, , 27F
推情感和浪漫!!超人再起是讓我進入美漫世界的關鍵英雄!
08/10 13:44, 27F

08/10 15:53, , 28F
男僕?翻成管家比較好吧 又 全文感覺像是股市名嘴在講話..
08/10 15:53, 28F

08/10 17:47, , 29F
我愛超人再起:)
08/10 17:47, 29F

08/10 19:57, , 30F
超人再起只是相對開戰時刻沒有那樣把超人電影復興而已
08/10 19:57, 30F

08/10 20:26, , 31F
我其實很好奇是怎樣的難看阿? 我很認真的問
08/10 20:26, 31F

08/10 21:06, , 32F
超人再起有向前作致敬 算拍的很不錯了
08/10 21:06, 32F

08/10 21:54, , 33F
我想說這個翻譯翻得很棒^^" (逃)
08/10 21:54, 33F

08/11 09:53, , 34F
超人再起比較像是童話XD
08/11 09:53, 34F

08/11 12:10, , 35F
我也很喜歡超人再起,看到電影片頭我整個燃燒起來了XD
08/11 12:10, 35F

08/16 02:17, , 36F
很愛超人再起+1
08/16 02:17, 36F
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