[閒聊] 關於那個可能的窩裡反還有其他

看板TokyoGhoul作者 (僕は問題ありません)時間9年前 (2016/04/26 19:21), 9年前編輯推噓35(35065)
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好讀網頁板: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/TokyoGhoul/M.1461669714.A.BDD.html 這篇就是要來聊一下這個: https://images.plurk.com/6JRVe6s6FNeP1KRaDiQlYg.jpg
在那之前先補一下昨天沒有放上去的圖: https://images.plurk.com/2ZbpCYP9864FyK5tfNA2cp.jpg
↑注意到了嗎?有馬是先確認一下這隻還是不是他兒子。 https://images.plurk.com/2SO5BxAQ7FIt5IA5sMGBRG.jpg
↑聽了回覆之後以佐佐木一等稱呼, 以官階來稱看似合情合理? 但,有馬可能在這時就查覺了其中的古怪。 那麼,以下本文開始。 ------------------------------- 為什麼瀧澤可能會背叛青桐樹? 關鍵在以下這段: https://images.plurk.com/mZBL6TbT4tqIx4kScTjD6.jpg
瀧澤吃了什麼? 這點在本板其實轉貼有解析: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/TokyoGhoul/M.1444961315.A.7E1.html 然後,只吃了這樣嗎? https://images.plurk.com/AxRQuFdKG42tiPiTbzA17.jpg
↑所以呢~ 在這種情況下,已獲得了一定的實力,仍然在青桐樹。 或許,是等待某個時機、伺機而動。 和誰? 如果死堪確實=凜央的話。 這兩個人一組也不無可能。 (坐等西瓜打我臉←喂) 另一個變數在真戶: https://images.plurk.com/24J8vVo3UtwSyqS8aUknJ3.jpg
瀧澤對真戶曉的印象是堅毅的側臉,不是對他的嘲諷。 這是景仰。 然而,他對於第一名的執著,則反映在對於金木的攻擊方面。 https://images.plurk.com/3pHkjfmFMdI5uVcFFSlj7z.jpg
何以能確定瀧澤對真戶曉的景仰與戀情, 一、無印中他受到多田良的攻擊後,眼中浮現的是曉的臉。 二、以貓頭鷹的姿態出現在曉面前時,他摀住了臉。 因為,無言以對、無"顏"以對。 所以在流島相會勢必會有一定的變數。 另一個原因是他放走了六月她們,沒有繼續追擊。 缽可能和瀧澤有私底下的怨恨(?) 六月她們入侵的情況下,以瀧澤當時的實力,要一起收拾應該也是沒問題。 可是他當時選擇和死堪二打一,這點很弔詭。 會放走的可能性: 一、刻意讓消息走漏(艾特所留有的一手) 二、本無攻擊意圖。 那為什麼會沒有攻擊的意圖? 這點也頗值得玩味就是了。 ------------------ 然後,f大在上一篇回了稻草人,我想了一下, 嗯,西瓜很壞,他有放進去喔~ https://images.plurk.com/3QC0HhuNqU9k9tabZAsUeM.jpg
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四張圖請連著一起看~ 哼哼~真的是,臭西瓜啊~~ 稻草人(空心人)的原詩: The Hollow Men/ Thomas Stearns Eliot We are the hollow men We are the stuffed men Leaning together Headpiece fill with straw. Alas! Our dried voices, when We whisper together Are quiet and meaningless As wind in dry grass Or rats' feet over broken glass In our dry cellar Shape without form, shade without color, Paralysed force, gesture without motion; Those who have crossed With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom Remember us-if at all-not as lost Violent souls, but only As the hollow men The stuffed men. II Eyes I dare not meet in dreams In death's dream kingdom These do not appear: There, the eyes are Sunlight on a broken column There, is a tree swinging And voices are In the wind's singing More distant and more solemn Than a fading star. Let me be no nearer In death's dream kingdom Let me also wear Such deliberate disguises Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves In a field Behaving as the wind behaves No nearer- Not that final meeting In the twilight kingdom III This is the dead land This is the cactus land Here the stone images Are raised, here they receive The supplication of a dead man's hand Under the twinkle of a fading star. Is it like this In death's other kingdom Waking alone At the hour when we are Trembling with tenderness Lips that would kiss From prayers to broken stone. IV The eyes are not here There are no eyes here In this valley of dying stars In this hollow valley This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms In this last of meeting places We grope together And avoid speech Gathered on this beach of the tumid river Sightless, unless The eyes reappear As the perpetual star Multifoliate rose Of death's twilight kingdom The hope only Of empty men. V Here we go round the prickly pear Prickly pear, prickly pear Here we go round the prickly pear At five o'clock in the morning. Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the shadow For Thine is the Kingdom Between the conception And creation Between the emotion And the response Falls the Shadow Life is very long. Between the desire And the spasm Between the potency And the existence Between the essence And the descent Falls the Shadow. For Thine is the Kingdom. For Thine is Life is For Thine is the This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper 這首詩和作品間連結解析就不能靠我了,嘿嘿,f大有興趣接手嗎? ps:翻譯網路上找得到,但是要解析的話,看得懂英文的會更有梗吧~ -- 生活記錄遊記隨拍分享: http://www.plurk.com/senha -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 118.167.217.124 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/TokyoGhoul/M.1461669714.A.BDD.html ※ 編輯: senha (118.167.217.124), 04/26/2016 19:23:59

04/26 19:24, , 1F
每天一篇~~
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不會每天一篇~想太多~~XD
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瀧澤叛變就不好玩了 要把曉像六月那樣才對
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04/26 19:28, , 4F
玩過一次再玩第二次同樣的梗也不好玩啊XD
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愛天使也太鬼畜.....
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阿千你......好啦我成功被你釣出來了QAQQQQQ 空心人這個
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梗廣泛出現在各種虐文,上次我被吞掉的文就有用上XD 換
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個方式來想,空心才有地方塞進新的東西啊。
04/26 19:28, 8F
這是愛的表現~一起入坑所以才乖乖截圖發文耶~XD

04/26 19:29, , 9F
竟然推給f大 小心他已讀你www
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我相信他會明確回覆要不要接啦XD (會用已讀的是1123,我跟妳說,是真的)

04/26 19:30, , 10F
曉也那樣子就太重複了啦XD 好歹來個拔鳳梨吃(?)
04/26 19:30, 10F
那太殺,感覺可以畫到6/6真戶曉的生日XD ※ 編輯: senha (118.167.217.124), 04/26/2016 19:32:24

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最後結局如果是像本詩一樣就好玩了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
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愛天使真的很討厭曉呢XDDD
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04/26 19:34, , 13F
要不然換曉拔鳳梨也可以?互殺真好(捧臉)
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本部專門:相愛相殺~
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結果我又忘記講琲世的捲髮~算了~改天~改天~
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要認真互殺啊XDDDD
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西瓜應該不會畫出殺很大之後手牽手私奔的梗吧XDDDDDD
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阿千可以再發一篇啊,髮色改變(?) 我覺得會是亞門跟曉私
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奔,如果真的要私奔的話
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04/26 19:39, , 20F
髮色可能有人寫過,只是我沒看過的印象~但是不會想特別拿來
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寫文就是了~~只是個人畫圖時的疑問XD
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我也支持亞門跟曉私奔,這樣瀧澤還真是更顯悲催...
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04/26 19:40, , 23F
不好意思 我不懂你稻草人那裡 能解釋嗎?
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用稻草人=空心人的概念去想看看?XD
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安啦我什麼都分析了(誤) 髮色統整起來也很有趣啊~瀧澤
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乖去旁邊拔鳳梨吃XD
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我比較想統整別的,但工程會比昨天那篇文還大~ 等我做好心理準備再說(?)

04/26 19:43, , 27F
推 空心人很有意思
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真的,要不是f大提到,我還沒想到西瓜壞成這樣(?) ※ 編輯: senha (118.167.217.124), 04/26/2016 19:46:21

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有沒有可能法寺驅逐多田良的時候,瀧澤從背後捅多田良一
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刀(腦洞模式開啟
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這個發展我可以XDDD
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空心人我認為有兩種解釋,一為上面阿千貼的艾略特那首長
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詩(可以翻作空心人或稻草人),另一個是童話綠野仙蹤的稻
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草人(找大腦的那個)
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找大腦的那個會讓我想到一句:
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還有 26 則推文
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喔耶~~m(_ _)m (可期待一下和作品的梗概連結嗎XD)
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\f大/\f大/\f大/
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一邊看中文一邊讀詩 我上課都沒這麼認真XDDD
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真的,我大學時寫報告也沒這麼認真(?
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\f大/\f大/\f大/
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我連現在讀書都沒這麼認真讀英文了(欸
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我畢業很久了,根本沒在唸英文啊啊啊啊啊XDDDD
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謝f大用心協力~~感恩啦~~~~~~~~~
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看到日曆 我才想到漫畫現在的日期是12/19 剛好12/20又是
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金木和有馬生日……
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是的~臭西瓜~XDDD 所以才要挑75話之前發文等被打臉XD
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臭西瓜~~ 都不肯給金木過個好生日
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04/26 22:30, , 73F
所以稻草人是?
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如果是C級流浪的那隻~還不清楚喔XD
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邊哭邊幫他們唱生日快樂歌XDD
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別這樣XDDDDDDDDDDD
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到現在還是覺得有馬聽命於芥子很怪異0_0…
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這聽命的背後跟和修家勢必有關係吧~(?
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亞門?
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推(′・ω・`)瀧澤那段QQ(流島2號修羅場)
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你找的稻草人是C級的那隻 還是作品中的稻草人(一大堆)
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拍賣會與流島所見的稻草人現在劇中沒有明確說是誰,所
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以大家也無法跟你說答案。
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看到f大的一大堆我笑翻了XDDDD
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jail知道是誰了嗎?
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推測中…(?
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6/2(四)是發售日呢~
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西瓜可能會這樣算連載的話,流島當週可以期待XD
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在5/28或是5/29的情報中XD
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但可以的話,我多期待是6/9的六區之日他們能再相會QDQ
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雖然我是永研黨的XDD
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←這天也發售日...
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你已經變成西瓜的形狀了XD
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我是因為吃零食不想弄髒書本,所以看日曆XDDDD
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芥末口味的可樂果好吃~
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不過現在打字會變慢,不想沾到鍵盤(爆
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←貼來開西瓜賭盤用的(?
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如果會到143話這時還在連載沒錯~~
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還有,可樂果不要一次吃太多,會飽...
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(11/24也是發售日XD)
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