[閒聊] 「北拒曹操,東和孫權」是幹話嗎
每次看三國作品,例如橫山光輝的三國誌就有提到這段劇情
孔明跟關羽說:「請將軍務必牢記八字」
「北拒曹操,東和孫權」
所以後來的讀者常會覺得是關羽沒有做到這點才導致蜀漢的下坡
畢竟關羽失利,除了丟失荊州,更重要的是進一步引發了後面的夷陵之戰
但我想不通的是,這八字口訣真的有用嗎?就算大方向是對的,但現實真的做得到嗎?
回想關羽除了拒絕把自己女兒聯姻給孫權兒子,其實好像也沒有主動攻打東吳,或做出破
壞吳蜀聯盟的事情
反而只是往北攻打曹操
而且諸葛亮也沒說如果你北拒曹操,結果東邊人家不跟你和,甚至主動來攻打你,要怎麼
辦
想問大家會覺得這句「北拒曹操,東和孫權」雖然是一句名言,卻是不切實際也不具體的
口號嗎
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