Re: [閒聊] COS、龐克與羅莉

看板cosplay (角色扮演扮裝)作者Yenfu35 (廣平君)時間17年前 (2008/03/15 11:37)推噓1(1推 0噓 4→)

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雖然原作者的講稿有可改之處，但在此保留不動。而由於是完全照原文翻譯，故譯文或有與作者本意不同之處，但必要時仍儘量猜測作者本意、在譯文中改正。若內容與事實不合，或必須補充原文內容的不足，則在該段後補註。 Have you heard about Lolita? Do you know what the Loli is? And have you seen some girl’s clothes are very special or fantastic? Maybe in 新堀江 you have seen the store. I think some of you know about Lolita, I will do a simple introduction about Lolita. 　　你們聽過「蘿莉塔」嗎？你們知道「蘿莉」是什麼嗎？你是否看過一些女生穿著很特別或夢幻的衣服？也許你們在新堀江的店裡看過。我想你們之中有些人知道蘿莉塔，而我就簡單地介紹蘿莉塔。 I. What is Lolita II. The Lolita and Loli III. Lolita complex IV. Dressing of Lolita 一、什麼是「蘿莉塔」二、「蘿莉塔」與「蘿莉」三、蘿莉塔情節（譯註：因下文另有「蘿莉控」，故採用正式稱呼以辨別。）四、蘿莉塔服裝 In fact, Lolita is a novel. The book is written by a French who lived in Russia. The story is talking about a teacher who fell in love with his stepdaughter. The teacher is about 40 years old; he loves his 12- year-old stepdaughter. Lolita is the diminutive of the stepdaughter by the teacher. Lolita is a very beautiful, young girl and just start to grow. Although she is a girl, she looks like an adult. Now a day in these kind of girls, we call "Lolita." It's a common language on Internet, comic books, cosplay and some games. 　　事實上，「蘿莉塔」是一部小說。本書由住在俄國的法國人寫成。這本書講述一個愛上自己繼女的老師。老師大約四十歲；他愛上他十二歲的繼女。「蘿莉塔」是老師對他繼女的暱稱。蘿莉塔是一個很美麗的年輕女孩、剛開始發育。她雖然是個女孩，但看起來像大人。現在我們稱這類女孩為「蘿莉塔」。這在網路、漫畫、角色扮演和一些遊戲中是常見的用詞。（譯註：此書作者Vladimir Nabokov實為土生土長的俄國人。附問：若她剛開始發育，如何會像大人？） If you know Lolita, of cause you have to know what Loli is. Loli is a normal language today. Actually, Loli is the abbreviation of Lolita. The pronunciation of Loli is from Japan. In Japan, the Lolita started to become popular. But Lolita has four syllables in Japan so they change it into two syllables. And a new noun Loli-Con is from Japan too. I will tell you the means later. 　　你們若知道蘿莉塔，當然必須知道什麼是「蘿莉」。今天「蘿莉」是很正常的語言。事實上，「蘿莉」是「蘿莉塔」的縮稱。「蘿莉」的發音是從日本來的。在日本，蘿莉塔開始變成流行。但日語中「蘿莉塔」有四個音節，因此他們把它變成兩個音節。新名詞「蘿莉控」也由日本來。我稍後會告訴你們它的意思。（譯註：「蘿莉塔」在日語也是三個音節。「在日本…流行」一句可刪。） The book "Lolita" is about the teacher loves the little girl. Therefore that kind of people we call Lolita complex. In Japan we pronounce Loli-Con. Lolita complex is similar to children complex, but it's not a sickness and a little be different. The people who has children complex usually has the dirty though. And usually will do the crimes with the children. The Lolita complex won't. The target of children complex usually under than twelve years old, but the target of Lolita complex is only between ten and fourteen. One is crimes and the other is just a feeling and liking. 　　《蘿莉塔》一書講述老師愛上小女孩的故事。因此我們稱那種人有蘿莉塔情結。我們在日語中發成「蘿莉控」。蘿莉塔情結和戀童癖相似，但不是一種病、而且也有些不同。有戀童癖的人通常有骯髒的思想，而且通常以兒童為犯罪對象；有蘿莉塔情結的人不會。戀童癖的目標通常是十二歲以下的人，但蘿莉塔情結的則只在十到十四歲之間。兩者之間，一個是犯罪行為，另一個則只是一種感覺與喜歡。（譯註：確有人以為蘿莉控和戀童癖只是一線之隔。但若追究原義，此想法不是沒有根據的。另外，children complex不是「戀童癖」，pedophilia才是。） As you can see, the dressing of Lolita is special. There're four kind of Lolita dressing. The Traditional Lolita, Gothic Lolita, Classical Lolita and the Punk Lolita. You can see the pictures. The Traditional Lolita is very sweet and fantastic, just like little princess from the castle. These kinds cloth usually have a lot of bowknots on their dress and coronet, and have a lot of lace with fantastic color. The Gothic Lolita. The color of Gothic Lolita almost with color black and white. It's different with Tradition Lolita. And the Classical Lolita, the Classical Lolita is a new style. The Traditional Lolita garnishes the Europe style. And the last one, Punk Lolita. The Punk Lolita usually like the ocular style. The Punk Lolita usually with color black and red. It's very different to others Lolita dress. All the Lolita will bring the western-style umbrella, doll or a backpack. 　　如你們所見，蘿莉塔的服裝很特別。有四種蘿莉服：傳統、哥德、古典和龐克。你們可在圖上看到。傳統蘿莉非常甜美、夢幻，就像從城堡裡出來的公主。這種衣服通常在洋裝和小皇冠上有很多蝴蝶結，而且有很多顏色夢幻的蕾絲。哥德蘿莉服的顏色幾乎都是黑白、和傳統蘿莉不同。古典蘿莉是新的風格。傳統蘿莉美化歐洲風格。最後是龐克蘿莉。龐克蘿莉通常很像視覺系，通常使用黑色和紅色，和其他蘿莉服非常不同。所有種類的蘿莉塔都會帶西式雨傘、娃娃或背包。（譯註：這篇應該是Powerpoint presentation的講稿，否則在無圖的情形下這樣說有些奇怪。ocular style，若我猜測正確，原作者應是要說「視覺系」；那該用visual kei。） Now we have know what the Lolita is, the different between Lolita and Loli, Lolita complex, and the dressing of Lolita. All the things about Lolita and use today. 　　現在我們已知蘿莉塔是什麼、蘿莉塔和蘿莉的不同，蘿莉塔情結和蘿莉塔的服裝。最後是今天的蘿莉塔與使用。（譯註：最後一句很費解。） In Japan the Lolita dressing are the normal wearing now. And the dressing of Lolita also becomes more and more popular in Taiwan. Also, there is some Lolita tea party in Taiwan. After today, if you are interesting in Lolita, welcome to join us. 　　現在在日本，蘿莉服是普通的衣著風格。蘿莉風在台灣也日漸流行。此外在台灣也有一些蘿莉下午茶派對。今後你們若對蘿莉塔有興趣，歡迎加入。（全文完）譯後感： 1.原作的用詞和結構有進步的空間。 2.我不確定這篇的討論範圍是否還在板的討論範圍內。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.113.191.152 ※ 編輯: Yenfu35 來自: 140.113.191.152 (03/15 12:17)